104 tweets | 29 @tweets
104 tweets | 29 @tweets
davegray’s Tweets from the 2009 TOC Conference
chrisbrogan: Ridiculously giddy about getting the chance for coffee with @davegray of Xplane fame. Fan of his since 2005. #toc
davegray: Goal of google book search: make book pages as easy to find as web pages #toc
davegray: Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "platforms! I need another one of those." #toc
davegray: Seems like the google book search guy wants to make publishers feel comfortable and see book search as book marketing. #toc
davegray: Audience asking google guy to explain what an Api is -- sheesh, some publishers have a long way to go #toc
davegray: Google guy: mobile devices are walled gardens #toc
TOCConNow: by @davegray: Audience asking google guy to explain what an Api is -- sheesh, some publishers have a long way to go #toc
davegray: @dermotcasey maybe it's you who are misunderstanding me. Tweeting lots of opinions here at #toc not all of which are my oqm
davegray: @rahafharfoush tweeting a lot of peoples thoughts, don't always agree just tweetimg things I find interesting at #toc
davegray: All these business models are colliding but to consumers it's just a big nuisance called DRM #toc
davegray: Let's get over it. As kevin Kelly said, the Web is a big copying machine. If you put something on the web it's going to get copied #toc
davegray: Google guy: it's not me it's the algorithm. If you want better results build a better website #toc
davegray: @dkachman try the #toc website under cory doctorow
davegray: Book purchases off of google book search are relatively independent of when the book was published #toc
davegray: Scientific journals taking in more money due to google search OMG don't get me started on open access #toc
davegray: 99% of Springer books on google book search have been clicked. 89% have been bought #toc
davegray: @Notink true. Also we might get sued. My only point is that when you make things public to the world it's part of the game #toc
davegray: Running community online is an enormously valuable skill and one that I'm not very good at #toc dan gillmor
MatchesMalone: RT @davegray: Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "platforms! I need another one of those." #toc
MatchesMalone: RT @davegray: Audience asking google guy to explain what an Api is -- sheesh, some publishers have a long way to go #toc
MatchesMalone: RT @davegray: Google guy: it's not me it's the algorithm. If you want better results build a better website #toc
davegray: Archivists of the future looking at "born digital" texts have a lot to contend with, literally thousands of versions #toc
davegray: Put out your idea when it's half done, when it's half-baked #toc
thr61: @davegray @daviddurand -- fascinating watching your parallel tweets from #toc. The trick will be to see if you can actually meet.
davegray: Jeff jarvis author of "what would google do" at #toc
davegray: "I didn't eat my own dog food because the dog's gotta eat" jeff jarvis #toc
davegray: Books an the ideas in them need to get google juice #toc
KimFalconer: @davegray What does that actually mean? google juice #toc
davegray: It's the links that point to content add value. More links = more value. So how do we get more links into books? #toc
davegray: Those that are closest to good die first -- newspapers, magaZines etc. Who's next? #toc
paddaniels: RT @davegray: It's the links that point to content add value. More links = more value. So how do we get more links into books? #toc
DavidDurand: @davegray Guess you may know Tim Roy, he thinks maybe we should say hello. Should we get a drink at the reception? #toc
davegray: The publishing chain is changing from a linear one to a circular one #toc
davegray: Today the pace of change is completely giddying. Over the weekend two things in my presentation became wrong #toc
davegray: @eekim dunno yet speaker told us to watch for them. She wants to keep us awake #toc
davegray: @eekim I think the kindle is one, she had a photo of it in one of her slides #toc
davegray: While were scrabbling about with DRM, Google is providing a simpler solution #toc
davegray: Publishing into a network is publishingbinto a shared space. The challenge is to work with the network and not against it #toc
davegray: Content isn't king, conversation is .. cory Doctorow #toc
davegray: @victorcab speaker here at #toc
davegray: Let's face it publishers have never been good at technology, and we're absolute rubbish at working together #toc
bobcarlton: RT @davegray: 50% of Africans own a mobile phone. In Africa people spend 30-70% of their income on their mobile phones #toc
KimFalconer: @davegray okay, I know Cory :) He's my Little Brother...or I'm his little sister. We're both with HarperCollins Voyager. What's #TOC ?
davegray: @victorcab try Sarah Lloyd her blog is the digitalist #toc
davegray: Here comes Jason fried #toc
davegray: Story of how we made 500k on a book and another 500k repurppsing it into other things #toc
davegray: We tried to identify what our byproducts were #toc
davegray: A million dollars is still a ok of money .. Jason fried #toc
davegray: Email works for about a second and them it's a mess #toc
davegray: A couple of idiots can make a million bucks because they don't want to work with publishers and they want to control the content #toc
davegray: "I would pay for that" -- Jason fried #toc
orian: RT @davegray: Why can't you see the directors cut of a book? #toc
saleemkhan: RT @davegray DRM is always broken. It's all cost and no benefit #toc2009 #toc #corydoctorow
davegray: Top uses of stanZa iPhone ereader: 31% in bed, 29% on bus/train, 13% in waiting areas, 11% at home, 5% at work #toc
davegray: Biggest mistakes have been due to friction. Every time we reduced friction, where'd in sales, usability, etc., our numbers have gone up #toc
davegray: @shassinger oh yes I think that was on with the commuters (bus, train) but I could be wrong. I know he mentioned airplanes #toc
davegray: Announcement of the telephone predicted that people would never leave their houses again #toc
davegray: No matter what you do it's all storytelling -- and today everyones a storyteller #toc
davegray: Nick sees over 100k links in a day #toc
davegray: Vast majority of links clicked (80%) are referred through social network #toc
davegray: Death of paper? Nick says no #toc
davegray: Next generation will not be willing to wait for anything, they want immediacy #toc
davegray: IM and SMS culture is a hybrid form of comm. I have to say LOL because people can't see me #toc
davegray: Our language isn't deteriorating it's a hybrid form #toc
davegray: Printing press changed everything, for the first time the printed page is entering a new medium #toc
davegray: Let's make a blog! Let's not. #toc
davegray: There are lots of ways to share things online #toc
DavidDurand: @davegray #toc I often bring that up because people get excited about printing, and forget the previous 3 millennia of scrolls/clay/stone
davegray: Put the pieces together as they make sense. Video, text, comments etc. Should not be siloed #toc
davegray: The editors still decide the stories but their decisions are more influenced by readers than ever before #toc
davegray: OH it was the first time I ever gave a presentation to the top of peoples heads #toc
robotech_master: Lots of audience twittering at the TOC: RT @davegray: OH it was the first time I ever gave a presentation to the top of peoples heads #TOC
davegray: http://twitpic.com/1fl6l - Tim O'reilly takes the stage #toc
davegray: Lament for the passing of beautiful things #toc
davegray: New things are coming, we are at tv beginning of something fantastic #toc
davegray: Billions of people are coming out of poverty -- their brains are coming online #toc
davegray: We are building a global intelligence network. We can't possibly imagine where the internet is going to take us #toc
davegray: Already the Internet has publish more pages than in all the books that have ever been printed #toc
thewritermama: RT @davegray: We are building a global intelligence network. We can't possibly imagine where the internet is going to take us #toc
davegray: Stimulus watch let's you look at every line of the stimulus package #toc
davegray: Forget specs. We live in a world where you have an idea and you build it the next day #toc
hirechelsea: Forget specs. We live in a world where you have an idea and you build it the next day #toc (via @davegray)
hirechelsea: We are building a global intelligence network. We can't possibly imagine where the internet is going to take us #toc (via @davegray)
davegray: First time I've seen tim O'reilly talk in person -- he's an inspiring speaker #toc
davegray: Henk van drunen: the cost is not in the content, it's in the adaptation of the content to the new media #toc
davegray: Henk: if the medium is the message, then adaptation to new media means recreating content form scratch #toc
hirechelsea: RT: @davegray Henk van drunen: the cost is not in the content, it's in the adaptation of the content to the new media #toc
davegray: NYT panel on the future of news #toc
davegray: Jeff jarvis: there's no reason the publishing industry could not have done what google did -- but industries tend to protect their past #toc
davegray: A lot of really big companies out there could not handle the amount of data we (NYT) have #toc
davegray: Someone quoting clay shirky "it's now possible to so things because of love" #toc
davegray: Forging the communities can come first. One a community has been established you can fond a way to support the activity. #toc
davegray: The idea of forming a relationship with your audience is what drives micropatronage #toc
davegray: Jeff jarvis "there will be destruction" #toc
asimone: @davegray Ne'er a wiser word has been spoken. RT: "Do what you do best and link to the rest" #toc
davegray: Cory Doctorow: I'm wondering what a news organiZation would look like if it were designed from the bottom up to be linked to #toc
davegray: Cory: the business modelbis that every canonical thing that happened in the century would be housed on your site, ad supported #toc
davegray: Cory: make a promise that each unique URL (to a story) will be maintained forever #toc
davegray: Unbundled is a beautiful word that's fallen by the wayside #toc
DavidDurand: @davegray we still talk about unbundling at #tizra, but not everyone gets it.. #toc
davegray: Jarvis: I'm not ready to surrender yet. I still believe there's a market for journalism. Gods work is to figure out the business model #toc
davegray: When the business model (for journalism) shows up it will slap us on the face #toc
davegray: Rebuttal: it may not slap is in the face. We may be starin right now at our own destruction #toc
davegray: Youth today expects most content to be free or at least to have the opportunity to try before they buy #toc
davegray: We know what's breaking but it's hard to see what comes next #toc
MatchesMalone: RT @davegray: Youth today expects most content to be free or at least to have the opportunity to try before they buy #toc
davegray: Newspapers don't sell content they sell advertising. Books sell content. If the content had value people would be willing to pay for it #toc
davegray: http://twitpic.com/1fq5x - Bill westerman working on his preso -- coming up at 3:40! #toc
davegray: Go to google zeitgeist on amy given day and you'll see a lot of news there alongside all the brittney spears #toc
davegray: Next: successes and failures in digital publishing (panel) #toc
davegray: http://twitpic.com/1fqg6 - #toc panel. Guy meant to say HP scans but said HP scams. Tee hee
davegray: DC denison @ #toc I wanted to make an ebook from scratch
davegray: 72 hours later my book was for sale on the amazOn store #toc
davegray: Mobipocket also went very smoothly. #toc
davegray: Converting my HTML to PDF was surprisingly a nightmare. #toc
davegray: XML was a lot stricter that I was used to but I came to love the structured, well-formed validated lifestyle that we know as XML #toc
ArdiXIV: RT @davegray: NYT will add QR codes in the next few months #toc
qrcoder: RT @davegray: NYT will add QR codes in the next few months #toc
bookhling: RT @qrcoder: RT @davegray: NYT will add QR codes in the next few months #toc
eqhes: RT: @qrcoder: RT @davegray: NYT will add QR codes in the next few months #toc
davegray: Now that I am working in XML I feel pretty confident that I can port it (my ebook) onto just about any other format #toc DC Denison
davegray: http://twitpic.com/1fqoy - Next up, Andrew Malkin forming norming storming and performing #toc
davegray: Chelsea Green up next #toc
davegray: We had no real sustained growth over time on our website. that needed to change #toc
davegray: "Cory Doctorow says conversation is king, but without the content there's no conversation" #toc
davegray: Original content. If we make it quality and you make it distributable, it will be sucked out onto the vaccuum of the blogosphere #toc
davegray: People are not on facebook to be marketed at. Resist the urge. Yes you are growing your market but thru genuine interactions. #toc
davegray: All Chelsea Green authors can blog on the CG home page about anything they want #toc
davegray: Result: all trends up and steady growth, great PR, building an online community, sales up #toc
buzybee22: @davegray exactly re: FB, it's a reunion, interactive yearbook. Linkedin has no demension,not idea based,no buzz factor likeTwitterFB #toc
davegray: Really enjoyed #toc and my time in new yawk. Looking forward to a little down time in the Lou this weekend
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