36 tweets | 36 @tweets
36 tweets | 36 @tweets
pnh: #toc Peter Brantley: the book is now a networked commodity.
pnh: #toc Peter Brantley: Reading is now a more social, less solitary activity. (I think this underestimates how social it was before.)
pnh: #toc I think we need to consider how books and reading have always been "networked" & "social" activities; we're just speeding it all up.
pnh: #toc Brantley: we're moving into "an environment of participatory engagement" across books. Wow, Brantley just invented SF fandom ca. 1940!
pnh: #toc Don't mean to dis Brantley, who is smart and interesting. I just think a lot of this stuff is just old cultural forms + speed.
pnh: #toc Cory Doctorow: what the entertainment industry did over the last decade was build the moral case for stealing from them.
: RT @pnh: #toc Cory quotes my line about ebook publishing entailing publishing's worst-ever ratio of meeting-hours to dollars earned
: RT @pnh: #toc Cory Doctorow: what the entertainment industry did over the last decade was build the moral case for stealing from them.
pnh: #toc Doctorow: We hear that music biz forced Apple to accept DRM. In fact what Apple got out it was platform lock-in. Who played whom?
pnh: #toc Selling DRM books is like agreeing to only sell your books via Walmart--you're hostage to your DRM scheme, which someone else controls
pnh: #toc Cory reminds us that the real hot spot of DRM awfulness in book industry isn't the Kindle, it's Audible
pnh: #toc Apple will sell a DRM-free song. Amazon will sell DRM-free MP3s. Audible WILL NOT sell a DRM-free ebook.
: RT @pnh: ' #toc Cory Doctorow reminds us that the real hot spot of DRM awfulness in book industry isn't the Kindle, it's Audible'
pnh: #toc Doctorow's Law: Any time somebody puts a lock on something you own and doesn't give you the key, they are not doing it for your benefit
: RT @pnh: ' #toc Cory Doctorow reminds us that the real hot spot of DRM awfulness in book industry isn't the Kindle, it's Audible'
: RT: @podiobooks: RT @pnh: ' #toc Cory Doctorow reminds us the real hot spot of DRM awfulness in book industry isn't the Kindle it's Audible'
pnh: #toc The DRM you publishers thought you were forcing Amazon to accept? It's a trap Amazon was forcing _you_ to accept.
: RT @pnh #toc The DRM you publishers thought you were forcing Amazon to accept? It's a trap Amazon was forcing _you_ to accept.
: Reading @pnh's stream from Cory Doctorow's keynote on DRM More twitters on this by following #toc hashtag
: rt @pnh #toc " we're moving into "an environment of participatory engagement" across books. Wow, Brantley just invented SF fandom ca. 1940!
pnh: RT @doctorow: Stanza guy says he reads from his iPhone to his kid at groc store. Author's Guild says that's illegal! #toc
pnh: #toc Context for doctorow re-tweet just now:
: thx RT @pnh #toc Context for doctorow re-tweet just now:
pnh: #toc Basic takeaway of Stanza guy's ebook talk: listen to your users and give them lots of options. Shouldn't be news to anyone, but it is.
pnh: #toc Nick Bilton of NYT says his (not atypical) browsing habits expose him to over 160,000 links a day
pnh: #toc He clicks on about 80 of them, mostly ones aggregated and recommended by his social networks
pnh: #toc (Again, I reflect that we've always used our "social networks" for info filtering and aggregation; it's all just more & faster now)
pnh: #toc (and more desperate)
: @pnh Social networks have always told us stories that are normative, amusing, or urgent. I think that modern social news is different. #toc
pnh: RT doctorow: #toc
pnh: #toc "Paper industry has never had to create new devices"--no, but we've had to wrestle with wrenching changes to distribution
pnh: #toc (Which is to say: "paper industry"'s equivalent to record player, walkman, ipod, are big distributed tech systems)
pnh: #toc I'm suspicious of arguments that rely too much on the alleged universal power & applicability of "storytelling"
pnh: #toc Not all information formats optimally as immersive "story"
: @pnh Amen -- "Me and my pal Bill Shakespeare" is BS (Sterling). No one plays a video-game for the cutscenes #toc
: @pnh Amen -- "Me and my pal Bill Shakespeare" is BS (Sterling). No one plays a video-game for the cutscenes ##toc
pnh: #toc Tim O'Reilly now speaking.
: @pnh Editors are overworked. :) #TOC
pnh: #toc O'Reilly -- Basic global fact: phones are everywhere
pnh: RT @doctorow: The future of social communications is tools that allow you to better ignore your friends when they're jabbering #toc
: @pnh Can't make an omelet without breaking nation-states #toc
pnh: #toc O'Reilly emphasizes an important aspect of using social media: BESTOW STATUS
pnh: #toc O'Reilly for-pay "rough cuts" service, early looks at books in progress--evidently it MASSIVELY drives sales of final versions
pnh: #toc Would love to see performance of O'Reilly "rough cuts" service compared with Baen's similar "e-galley" program for novels
: RT - @pnh: #toc O'Reilly for-pay "rough cuts" service, early look at books-in-progress-evidently it MASSIVELY drives sales of final versions
pnh: #toc O'Reilly for-pay "rough cuts" service, early looks at books in progress--evidently it MASSIVELY drives sales of final versions
pnh: #toc Would love to see performance of O'Reilly "rough cuts" service compared with Baen's similar "e-galley" program for novels
: RT - @pnh: #toc O'Reilly for-pay "rough cuts" service, early look at books-in-progress-evidently it MASSIVELY drives sales of final versions
pnh: #toc "Who owns an un-listened-to music CD?" (a few hands) "Who owns an unread book?"(many many hands) Huh.
pnh: #toc Guy from NATURE: I never refer to the people who read our sites as "users". They're "readers." Hear hear.
pnh: #toc NATURE guy:Think of your site as a restaurant--people want good interactions with each other, as little intermediation as possible...
pnh: #toc ...and trouble dealt with quickly and effectively
: #toc @pnh will still sell books to people not interested in the author, but there's the ability to also use author as selling point
: #toc @pnh good track record of looking for authors at online places and looking for smart posters and asking them if they write fiction
: #toc @pnh finds writers not by reading slush, but by hanging out online, lookig for smart interesting ppl, and asking if they write fiction.
: Aha. That's @pnh. Editors will do whatever they can to find interesting authors. #TOC
: #toc @pnh editors adn publishers will do whatever they need to to find interesting writers and the rules change constantly(for finding them)
: #toc @pnh recruited Jo Walton after reading her comments on science fiction message boards.
: @pnh We want to have an engaged example for our readers and set a good example for our authors. #TOC
: @pnh Technology giveth and technology taketh away. There's an era for one kind of writer, and an era for another. #toc
: #toc @pnh is to provide a sandbox for experimentation, soon to be commercial/ebooks sale component to it soon
: #toc @pnh sex: is leading up to a commercial e and p book outlet. You heard it here first.
: #toc @pnh @RonHogan is not just for tor books (something I didn't know until Monday) but for other writers/publishers
: @pnh Biggest conversations took place around which conversations would be moderated. #TOC
: #toc @pnh idea of it being a destination for others is a key component
: @pnh Modern social book marketing is sf fandom ca. 1940 #toc
: #toc @pnh sex: is leading up to a commercial e and p book outlet. You heard it here first. (via @pablod)
: @pnh The Tor site is not making any many but pays up to 25 cents a word for short fiction. #TOC
